Comments on: The Business of Beads: Bookkeeping https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/ free jewelry tutorials, plus a friendly community sharing creative ideas for making and selling jewelry. Fri, 05 Apr 2019 17:25:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.15 By: Rena Klingenberg https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-610887 Fri, 05 Apr 2019 17:25:28 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-610887 In reply to Andrea.

Hi Andrea! 🙂 The easiest route is to go to a certified tax account who understands home business. This type of person can get you squared away with all the things you’re stuck on – and can also set up any quarterly sales tax dates for the rest of this year. You will feel SO MUCH better once you put this problem into someone’s knowledgeable, certified hands – so you can go back to what you’re good at – creating beautiful things! 🙂

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By: Andrea https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-610881 Fri, 05 Apr 2019 03:35:11 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-610881 In reply to Andrea.

Hi Andrea, its Andrea! Great name btw.:)

So all of this trying to organize and invintory for my making and my selling and my overstock selling has started to give me panic attacks and nightmares… that’s not what you want for the thing that was supposed be helping with ones mental health, so I need to figure it out.

Are you saying you have groups of prices and that’s what you use, rather than calculating it based on each beads cost? Like rings 15 earrings 20 pendants 25 +10 dollars if it’s made of precious metals? (Making up numbers…)

So would you charge the same for a wire bracelet that you would with one that had swarovskis? Am I just over complicating the hell out of it?

I cant even figure out the best way to organize the ones I’m keeping or the ones I’m ready to part with so I can get more keepers. That’s part of it I think. I have so many I need to resell.

Blurg.
Any thoughts are much appreciated!
A.

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By: Kelly https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-576987 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 03:52:52 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-576987 Wow Amanda, thanks for the heads up on that one… I thought the same thing that Veronica did! Hopefully she read your comment or at least found out she was wrong about that. Wouldn’t want to get into hot water with the IRS :/

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By: Rena Klingenberg https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-576282 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:28:03 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-576282 In reply to Amanda.

Thank you for sharing this helpful information, Amanda! And this is why I always recommend using the services of a qualified CPA for jewelry business tax issues.

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By: Amanda https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-576275 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:12:34 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-576275 I understand this is an old post, but because of some major things I discovered I’d been doing wrong this year (after 10 years in business), I’m adding this comment. This is primarily addressed to the former comment regarding not having to keep inventory if you make below a certain amount.
That, unfortunately, is the mistake that so many entrepreneurs have made….because of the IRS rule about not having to track inventory if your sales were less than $10 million. However, in our line of business (jewelry makers, jewelry suppliers, online sellers, etc), it IS NOT the case. For one, the IRS clarified that by saying if you had to maintain an inventory for your business (as we all do), then you HAD to track the inventory. Another exception is given in publication 2002-28 and applies to only certain types of businesses (not OURS unfortunately). The long and short of it is yes, if you are in the jewelry business, whether you are a designer selling your creations or a bead supplier (like I primarily am), then you must use the accrual method of accounting and you must track your inventory.
I have just found this out after years of doing it the wrong way and am headed to see a CPA this evening. I also am in the same boat of having previous years of inventory (most likely in the hundreds of thousands of beads) that I have no idea exactly how much is there.

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By: Veronica Salfi https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-519443 Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:32:43 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-519443 This is probably a very old post…however I just encountered it. My understanding is that if you make below as certain amount, you do not have to keep count of inventory….that amount is huge also.

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By: kathy https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-450600 Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:40:37 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-450600 Lots of good information here. Now I need to sit down and devise a system. Thanks for sharing!

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By: Ruth https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-332196 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 03:17:24 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-332196 Hi There ~ I am just getting involved with this (with beads and other items I’ve accumulated over 25 yrs!) ~ and I like the MIMO method…but how would you fill out the schedule C part 111 (yes, COG again) I read on one of these blogs that to not fill that out causes a flag?! Please help

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By: Dondi https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-305539 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 05:21:51 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-305539 Hi, I’ve been doing small shows around town and am now thinking after 14 years to go as a business, my grandfather gave me his beads and findings and things so I really don’t know my inventory or my expenses. Is this going to be a problem for me later?

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By: Ginger https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-213541 Thu, 02 Oct 2014 04:17:53 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-213541 Wow. You have received so many responses that I do not have time to read them all so if I am being redundant, sorry.

I am a bookkeeper who is now making jewelry due to health reasons. I used to run a bookkeeping service for small businesses and more recently ran an office that took care of four incorporated businesses.

Very important – take the time to count your starting inventory. Do the best you can in a reasonable amount of time. Use any receipts you can find for the past year or two unless their has been a drastic change in their value. Estimate the amounts of things difficult to count and not extremely expensive such as jump rings and seed beads. The value of your starting inventory is what it would cost you now to buy it, not what you paid for it 10 years ago.

The total cost of your starting inventory will count as equity. Since your husband already paid income tax on the money you spent on inventory, you do not have to pay income taxes on that amount again when you pay yourself until that equity is used up. Just like paying back a loan to a bank if they loaned you the money for your starting inventory.

You do have to pay sales taxes and all other taxes except personal income tax as long as you are not incorporated and then there are special rules depending on where you live.

This is just one of many tips that your accountant will explain to you and they will save you a lot of money. You need to find yourself a good accountant and talk to them now.

I had many clients who paid too much money to the government for different reasons. I got over $40,000 back for one company and the family that ran that business. Unfortunately, I could only go back so many years and the rest of their overpayments were unrecoverable.

Do not wait until after you set up your system only to find that you need to change the way you are recording your transactions and you have to redo everything so far. If you talk to the accountant now, they will tell you what they need to do your year-end processing. Having your data organized the way they need it will save you the money of having them reorganize it to their needs.

Find your accountant now, do not wait until tax season when they are swamped. Ask around and make sure they are reliable.

In Canada we have two types of accountants – CA’s which are chartered accountants and CGA’s which are certified general accountants. For a home run business you want a CGA and not a CA. CA’s are much more expensive. They have a lot more education and have to keep themselves updated with the ever changing rules in the corporate world. You simply do not need their level of expertise.

Find an accountant that will charge you by the hour instead of a flat-rate that they charge all small companies. If you give your accountant your information how they want it, it should take them a lot less time to do your year-end than a client who handed them the “shoebox” of papers. You don’t want to pay the same rate as that client.

I could go on and on but it is past my bedtime – so in short get a good respected accountant NOW and do things right the first time.

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By: Annie Hubbard https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-203566 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:40:11 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-203566 This is another thing I’ve been struggling with and which has held me back. I’ve been trying to take inventory slowly. My problem is also that I’ve got inventory going back to the 90s that I have no receipts for. I could estimate worth but without the receipts, I don’t think I can deduct them. In addition, I like to be able to use my inventory for things like making gifts for my family/friends or just for making things for myself, so I’m thinking I shouldn’t bother trying to inventory ahead of time since I’m not confining my use of the inventory to strictly business and can’t use it as a deduction anyway. I can easily figure out the worth of the supplies used as I make the item (well, not easily, but I can figure it out, LOL) and just keep track that way.

I should just figure out the cost of the item I’ve made (to help me determine pricing) and stick to a cash in-cash out type of journal, shouldn’t I?

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By: Sheila Meador https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-60395 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:19:01 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-60395 I’ve always used a small business template in MS Excel which is downloadable from Microsoft.com. It allows me to record various categories of expenses, mileage, and income.

However, when I asked my accountant (does my annual taxes) about inventory he said it wasn’t necessary to count everything. I make and sell jewelry on a small scale compared to some of the artists on this blog. I sell to Facebook friends, my family, and on consignment for a museum gift shop.

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By: Andrea https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-52470 Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:00:14 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-52470 Hi,
I’ve been making jewelry for over two years now and doing pretty well. When I started, I wanted to try to be organized and be a real business.

I searched for a software program for weeks that would work with my iPad, keep an inventory, create a sales receipt and deduct the sale from the inventory. Finally found it with Quick Sale. I got the upgraded version. worth it for the added flexibility and reports. It was also only about $40. You can design how your receipts look and you have quite a bit of flexibility with the pre formatted templates. I changed the word Invoice to Receipt on the template and ta da! I love it.

I work full time and usually don’t have more than a few hours during the week to work on jewelry and am lucky to get 5 hours or so on the weekends so I didn’t want to have to take the time to count and price every bead. It takes enough time to make a piece, develop a description, create my inventory number and enter it into inventory with a picture. (I photograph everything I make!) .

I did a lot of research on pricing too. I found Rena and subscribed to Rena’s web site and purchased several of her books. I investigated a pricing spreadsheet template and bought one.(maybe it was Rena’s) It is an Excel sheet and came up with several estimates depending on the cost of your labor. It was time consuming and you had to price each bead and wire used. But it was pretty accurate for what I felt the price should be. Too time consuming though.

I decided to cost price each piece with an estimate, one for earrings, bracelets, rings, pendants, etc. This estimate was based on exact bead pricing of about 5 items i made in each category and developing an average materials cost. If a new piece uses pricer elements, then I adjust the cost est of that item. I may also adjust the est. down if I use free beads. I add 10-15% for breakage, unusable beads, etc. The software, Quick Sale, has a place for the cost (my est. ) so I can generate a report for sales and see the cogs at the same time.

If I use really unique beads, I can list where I got them and how much they were right in the inventory page for that item in Quick Sale.

I save all of my receipts now and list each one at tax time and whether the items are beads, display, Packaging etc.

As all of you, I invested a lot of time in learning what to do and how to do it, the right way. I think you also have to find good mentors like Rena who will share their ideas that have worked for them. These blogs are also invaluable! I have learned so much.
Thank you and hope this has helped someone!

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By: Sarah https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-20066 Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:48:10 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-20066 I have an art hobby. Painting lots of canvases and piling them up 😀 Now I want to sell it. As I have alot of inventory and things like easel,camera and other resource I use for my art. Do you think it’s better to start up with an accountant or without one? Will I need invoice for everything as many things were purchased ages back and I never thought of making business out of my hobby?
The above comments have help me understand how to organise things. Thanks to everyone!!!

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By: Azlin https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-11345 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:38:59 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-11345 Do yourselves a favor and check out Craftybase. If you’ve got an Etsy account you can use the app, but if not, just google it and take a look. There’s a 14 day free trial so you can try it on and check the fit.

It’s really comprehensive, it’s very flexible, it’s cheap and it’s not scary.

Excel is scary.

You get to generate reports, which is great for taxes, and you get to manage and track your inventory.

I love it.

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By: Sarah S. https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/the-business-of-beads-bookkeeping/#comment-10765 Thu, 03 Jan 2013 01:29:06 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=19644#comment-10765 One thing to consider when using supplies you bought long ago – prices change. So, the silver wire or findings you bought at $17 an ounce in 2008 will now cost you $30 an ounce to replace. So, when determining your prices, or the value of your inventory, go with the replacement cost. If a piece doesn’t sell right away, you may need to adjust the price to reflect current costs.

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