Comments on: Dangling Dilemma: Chain, Cord or Other? https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/ free jewelry tutorials, plus a friendly community sharing creative ideas for making and selling jewelry. Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:37:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.14 By: Annie https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-522501 Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:37:11 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-522501 One thing that might help with the clasp coming around to the front is to make a couple of small stitches (in the same color as the cord or ribbon) and connect the cord or ribbon to the back of the jump ring/bail that holds your pendant (if you do it toward the back of the jump ring/bail, it won’t be as noticeable). You don’t have to make them too tight (otherwise it takes away from the movement of the pendant) but enough to keep the pendant at that particular point on the cord/ribbon. As long as your pendant is heavier than the clasp at the back, it will stay in the front and the clasp will stay in the back if you do this.

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By: Lady Mockingbird https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-510579 Wed, 15 Feb 2017 02:50:57 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-510579 What about making simple neck wires? Check out Rena’s V neck wire tutorial. It would solve the size problem because you can make several sizes, and you can use stainless steel wire to make them. Durable, no tarnish and less costly than sterling silver.

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By: Michele/MikkMikki Art Jewelry https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-510534 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 22:27:38 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-510534 I string size 8 seed beads in a coordinating color(s) on beading wire such as SoftFlex, etc, crimp the ends and use an S-hook or magnetic clasp. I make pendants from raw wood disks by painting and glazing them. I make a large bail with wire so i can slide it over the beads. Or, alternatively, center the pendant halfway up the wire so it doesn’t slide around.

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By: Lorelei56 https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-279487 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:01:35 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-279487 I use black and other colored (usually copper or gold-colored) cord with slip knots. I make them long enough to go over the head and then be adjusted by pulling on the cord to make them shorter. That solves the problem I seem to have with fixed-length necklaces that always seem to be the wrong length for whatever I am wearing. If the knots work their way around to the front, it’s not that noticeable.

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By: Shelley Withers https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17926 Tue, 28 May 2013 10:36:32 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17926 I have had the tarnish problem happen many times in shops near the ocean. I switched to cord because it’s simple, cheap and I find people have their own chains they will use but like to buy something that looks finished. I really like the idea of a beaded necklace for a pendant and will try that myself. Thanks everyone

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By: Ann Widner https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17925 Tue, 28 May 2013 10:27:19 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17925 Thanks to you all for your wonderful suggestions! Your advice has helped me a lot, and I appreciate every single one of you who commented or emailed me!! I’m really thankful for such a supportive and encouraging jewelry community.

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By: irina dalah https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17808 Thu, 23 May 2013 17:55:18 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17808 hi anne,

indeed your pendants are awesome!!

I had the same dilemma when I started selling to the open public, and I found soon enough that the answer does not lie with you, nor any of us: it lies with the customers!

I now have a few options: silk cord, leather cord, organza, colored hemp and cotton yarn, chain and wire and even strands of seed beads in a few different lengths, ready for the customer to choose from.
the price of the pendant includes an average of the types and lengths of all options, and leather or chain incur an additional $2 or $3 from the buyer.
this way I can easily encourage the buyer to have 2 or 3 pendants for the same “hanger” (and at a discount, so it would be even more tempting).

when the bail is not large enough to go over the clasp, I show the buyer how to make a lark’s head knot into the bail (easy to find on youTube too, eg:
youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2DrBJoRRM).
I also always have spare bails, clasps and suchlike with me, along with pliers, so I can change the “hanger” to the buyer’s pleasure.
I also have spare lengths of the hanging options with me, in case a buyer wants metal-free closing solutions: learning how to do sliding knots is very useful
(youtube.com/watch?v=W2GhB8k7vBw) but just knotting up a bead and a loop is good enough.

I found that it impressed the buyer no end to see how you work in front of them, and they suddenly get to appreciate how much work, knowledge and talent goes into making something that looks so simple…

good luck!
irina

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By: Jan https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17805 Thu, 23 May 2013 15:49:04 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17805 I meant to mention that when I glue a bead on each end of a buna cord, the way I tie it is a simple square knot.

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By: Diane https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17764 Wed, 22 May 2013 18:32:37 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17764 Grace and Ann:
Grace, I’m glad that it is working for others as well! And yes, I believe they should be pretty on the back too. Even when I’m making things that really call for a simple lobster claw clasp, I always dangle a crystal, pearl or czech glass bead on the end so that it hangs a bit down the back. I figure if the wearer has short hair or is wearing hair up, it’s a nice little touch even if it isn’t a handmade clasp or an elaborate bought clasp. I must admit on my “vintagy” pearl neacklaces, I do love a purchased filigree box clasp.

Ann, so we have another who has the same experiences as I do with the handmade clasps. If you haven’t made your own clasps before, please do not be intimidated and think that it will add a huge amount of time and there fore greatly increasing your costs. Sure, there are very elaborate clasps that can be hand made, but there are so very many that are quick, easy and cheap to make. If you haven’t made any in the past, take a look on youtube to get an idea of a few, then take it from there and create ones that you love for your pieces.

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By: Grac https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17761 Wed, 22 May 2013 17:46:11 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17761 Diane!
Funny you should mention that your handmade clasps never seem to “turn” on your work. I’ve always made my own clasps (in the beginning because I was short on funds and long on wire), and I, too, noticed that they never seemed to turn on me. I think it’s the size. My clasps are pretty big and often decorated with beads (I think the stuff in front should be just as pretty as the stuff at the back of your neck). I love Rena’s latest jewelry tutorial on making an Elegant Curl Connector, because that’s a wonderful design anyone can use as a hook for the back of the necklace. I popped a bead into the middle of my Elegant Curl Connector yesterday, and it looks marvelous! So many possibilities!

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By: Diane https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17684 Tue, 21 May 2013 23:23:16 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17684 I have never been a fan of cord on myself, and I do love the look of ribbon, but as Carol said, they tend to get very dirty, especially in summer with all the sunscreen, lotions, sweat. However, I do really like the look of the black cord on your pendants! They just seem to fit! When I used ribbon for a short time before wearing one myself in summer and realizing that it was not the best idea, I had the same problem with it turning and the lobster claw always moving to the front. Perhaps what I did will help you. Even wire wrapping and using the lobster claws, they still turned on me. I ended up taking a couple of hours and making a big batch of simple, hand made clasps. Then, whenever I was using the ribbon, I would just grab a hand made clasp set (I had made them in various color metals as that is what I use for my pendants and other jewelry), a spool of wire and the ribbon and wire wrap it all together. With that, it never turned on me!! I would think this would work for cord as well, but I have never tried it. By the way, your pendants are beautiful.

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By: Ann Widner https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17657 Tue, 21 May 2013 18:57:39 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17657 Thank you all so very much for your suggestions and advice and nice comments. I’m very excited and happy about getting so many wonderful suggestions. I have a lot to think over and experiment with! I’m going to look into every one of the ideas you have given me. It’s so nice to have a community of jewelry makers who I can turn to when I have a problem. I am totally overwhelmed with your response… You all have just simply made my day!!

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By: Carol https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17642 Tue, 21 May 2013 17:01:54 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17642 I, too, like the black cords with your pendants (which I very pretty!). A number of people commented on the fact that the clasps slide around to the front of the necklace. An easy way to combat this is to add a dangle of some sort near the clasp. It can be a beaded dangle to match the pendant and/or cord, or a small charm (which could become part of your brand), or perhaps small tags with your business name stamped on them.

The only other comment I would make is that my customers do not like ribbon cords because they get dirty and cannot be cleaned, so I rarely use them. I like someone’s comment about fake leather or pleather as opposed to leather because I find that despite how often I tell people not to wear their jewelry in the shower or when swimming, they do it anyway, and you know what happens to leather when it gets wet!

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By: Jan at City-o-Clay https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17638 Tue, 21 May 2013 16:55:45 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17638 I am a big fan of black cords and think the one in the picture of your pendant really shows it off to great advantage. Of course, that is partly due to the black frame of the pendant. I have spools of black buna cord from FireMountainGems in two diameters and often use them for my pendants. I make sure to use a strong epoxy glue to secure any fasteners to them. Lately, I have also become fond of making a couple of beads that go well with the pendant, drilling holes (just the right size for the cord) part way into the beads, and gluing the cord into them–again, using 2-part epoxy glue. If a cord seems a bit loose inside the bead, I stuff a short length or two of left-over wire (perhaps from a head pin that I had to trim) down inside the bead far enough so it doesn’t show.
I like that cords finished with just a bead on each end can be tied to any length the wearer wishes and the beads bobbing on the ends make a jaunty decoration at the back of your neck.

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By: SJ Churchill https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17609 Tue, 21 May 2013 15:55:42 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17609 I agree with Pam. I like the look of the plain cord with your pieces, which also keeps the price down. You could use the coordinating coloured cord, but I like black best, as it sets off the colour in the pendant. My preference would be to use leather cord, bought on a spool, cut to length, and add your own ends (or sliding knot). Bit more money than woven cord or faux leather, but more upscale looking.

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By: Grace https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17614 Tue, 21 May 2013 15:22:58 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17614 Hi Ann!

First, your work is so lovely that the cord should (as Pam and SJ noted above) complement your pendant, and I think a metal chain might detract rather than enhance the design. The black cord is really lovely and a strong design element. Here in California, I find more and more customers prefer fake leather or pleather cords to leather. I have worked a deal with my LBS and get it from a local source, but the cost is extremely affordable…I think I pay 13 cents a foot.

As for connection to the finding, either use cord connectors tha you flatten with pliers or the most economicl way is just to wire wrp the ends. I use a small strip of silver fill 1/2 round in 18 gauge to wrap the cord ends. Put the finding (clasp or eye) on the cord first, fold about 1 inch of the end over so that the finding rests in the “bend”. Then wrap the cording with the half round (flat side against the cording) with five or so wraps. Use a good set of flat nose pliers to flatten the wires, and you’re set! The silver fill will tarnish, but wrapped ends look more beautiful with aging, rather than worse. I can wrap and file ends in minutes, so you can wrap ends at the booth when selling or make pre-made cords and hav them ready for sale with the pendant. Good luck!

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By: Pam https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17592 Tue, 21 May 2013 15:05:30 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17592 Personal opinion only, but Ann, I think your black-backed pendants look wonderful on the black cord! They really pop! the ribbon looks pretty as well, but not nearly as eyecatching as the streamlined look of the black cord, especially if most of your pendants have that same black base in them. If I used ribbon, it would be black, I think. Some additional thoughts below, some more about why I use black cord with my sterling work.

I guess I am generally a fan of the black cords. I have been using them for some time. I purchase bulk (found mine on Etsy for around half buck each), so the cost is quite minimal. As for the lobster claws twisting around to the front, this is sometimes about the shape of the wearer’s neck. For me, personally, this is an issue with any kind of neckwear, any weight or shape, any sort of clasp! I’m always fiddling to keep my clasps at the back!

Some reasons that I like the black cords (I work in sterling silver primarily)

1. Consistency of Display.
I like the consist look across the table. All of my pendants, regardless of color/size/metal, look good on the black cord, and visually, these cords compete less. The eye is drawn more directly to the pendant, just where I want it to be.

2. In my own situation, working in sterling, I was not comfortable with mixing sterling with plate. I like plated chain for beaded or other types of work, but with sterling pendants, the plate chains just didn’t match well, and besides, as a customer, I would expect a sterling piece on a chain, to be a sterling chain. But I personally can’t afford the cost of carrying sterling chains, nor do I want to polish them. With the black cords, there is no question what the customer is getting.

3. Offering cords as “giveaways” – keeping prices reasonable
Most women already have a few sterling chains floating around in our jewelry boxes, in our preferred lengths. The black cord comes free with the piece, but customer has the option of either wearing the piece as-is, or switching out to their own chain.

Again, all just one opinion!

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By: Tammy https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17588 Tue, 21 May 2013 14:58:44 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17588 Hi there:

I have found that stainless steel ball chains are wonderful for different types of jewelry. I agree with you that they are great because you can easily cut them to any length you want. I have found them to be very ecomonical to use for my necklaces and never have to worry about them tarnishing or turning anyone’s neck green. I order the 30″ chains and then just cut them shorter if needed.
I have a wonderful supplier on Etsty and they are made in the USA not china.

Hope this helps.

Tammy

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By: Steph Bohnsack https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17568 Tue, 21 May 2013 13:03:17 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17568 Your pendants are beautiful. I went thru the same problem with my lampwork pendants. People wanted them ready to wear. Silversilkonline.com has really beautiful unusual chains and fasteners. They are available in silver, but also come in a variety of colors that can coordinate with the colors in your jewelry. I also use round stitched leather cord. I get mine from leathercordusa.com. It also comes in a lovely selection of colors.

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By: Karen https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17558 Tue, 21 May 2013 12:21:58 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17558 I don’t normally go to WalMart, but I found some really inexpensive faux leather cord there. It’s just called ‘cord’ on the card, sold by a company called Cousin. I made some things with it, and used a regular slide knot (no findings). It’s really, REALLY comfortable to wear and stands up well to a bit of stretching. If you wanted, you could knot the pendant at the front so it wouldn’t slide around. There are 4 colors on the card, a total of 40ft.

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By: Mary Ann https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17542 Tue, 21 May 2013 11:07:40 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17542 Have you considered using aluminum ball chain. I use aluminum to make chainmail and I love it. It is lightweight and it doesn’t tarnish. If it gets dull or dirty you just wash it with warm soapy water.

Your pendants are gorgeous!

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By: Lisa Festa-Estrada https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17539 Tue, 21 May 2013 10:05:12 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17539 Go straight to Rings n Things…they sell a huge variety of chain BY THE SPOOL and very affordable pricing….just stock up on jump rings and clasps!

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By: Tamara https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/dangling-dilemma-chain-cord-or-other/#comment-17513 Mon, 20 May 2013 21:51:31 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=26294#comment-17513 Ann, what if you stored the silver-plated chains in baggies – that way they wouldn’t tarnish as much, and you could instruct customers to do the same thing.

Or how about some strands of beads for your pendants? You could pick out one of the colours to highlight from the design.

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