Comments on: Can I Cheat On Wire Shapes? https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/ free jewelry tutorials, plus a friendly community sharing creative ideas for making and selling jewelry. Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:19:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.15 By: Veronica Rausch https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-49544 Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:45:00 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-49544 Rio Grande also sells silver wire (sterling, argentium and fine) by the inch and foot, as well as the troy ounce. Sometimes if I have a project that needs a special size or shape I’ll order just a couple of feet. I love Rio because they keep up with market prices and sell accordingly. They also sell copper and brass wire.

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By: K Antonelli https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-7447 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:51:29 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-7447 You can ‘make’ half round wire by pulling two round wires laid side by side through a draw plate. Both round wires will flatten on one side =)

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By: Bonnie Lee https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1904 Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:36:38 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1904 I appreciate your dilemma. Jewelry making can be expensive to start up and gather supplies. Square and half round wire will give you more options down the road but for now use the round. Do you know anyone who does electrical work?

Old electrical wire is full of different gauges of copper wire once you get the plastic coating off the bundle. I use it whenever I find it, garage sales and flea markets are a good source too. It is a bit of work to sort it all out but you can’t beat the price.

As for the design. You can use whatever wire you have and let your imagination soar. Make sure your stone is wrapped securely in the design and there will be no need to glue it.

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By: Fran Selinger https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1850 Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:35:10 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1850 I don’t like the look of square wire either. However, I have found that having the half-round wire is very handy for wrapping those bundled wires together. Here’s a link to my blog and a wrapped cabochon with only the experience of having made one previously in a class:
franselinger.blogspot.ca/2011/06/time-to-post-new-creation.html

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By: DKendra Francesco https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1831 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:04:38 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1831 The bead store I used to work at taught classes of all kinds. I was the only person there who taught caging. The store didn’t have any wire except round; the point in teach was to use only the products available in the store. So, I taught with round wire for 2 years. I used 22ga for the cage and 24ga for the bindings. It was tough teaching people to hold it tight enough that the round wires didn’t create a triangular bundle, but it was possible. (When the store finally got Parawire, I immediately changed to using 21ga square for the cage and 21ga half-round for the bindings. Made teaching caging easier.)

But, yes, you can cage with only round wire. It’s do-able. It’s possible. And personally, I think if you can cage with round, you’ll have no problem with the square and half-round once you can afford it.

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By: Colleen https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1808 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:49:26 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1808 The only rule you have to follow when you design your piece is that the cab isn’t allowed to slip out of the setting. Beyond that, you have full permission to ignore those tutorials and design anything you want. I have never used anything other than round wire, and it hasn’t hampered me in the least.

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By: Cyreathia Reyer https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1779 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:40:51 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1779 Great tip Heather – I’ll look in to copper by the pound.
Thank you.

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By: Heather https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1774 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:25:01 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1774 Have you tried looking at riogrande.com ? they frequently have “free shipping” codes that you can use for free shipping, and they have all manners of copper wire at a great price-far cheaper than Parawire-which is not bare copper wire, so if you want to add patinas or oxidize it, it won’t work. Example: 1 pound (or approximately 356 feet) of 21 gauge square bare copper wire is $22.80. (I usually use 21g for most if Im using square wire, with 20g half round as the wrap).

And I do often use round wire for my cabs as well, but I do still use the half-round ($29.95/lb=~630 feet) as the binding wire for a cab wrap, as it gives a flatter, smoother profile, a tighter fit around the cab. Some cabs don’t require such a fit, and in fact are beautifully accented with all round wire wrapping. You just need to play with it, and see what you come up with.

I highly recommend NOT gluing that rock to ANYTHING at this point, until you have exhausted all other ideas/options, because unlike wire, glue is extremely hard to undo.

If you have a friend interested in learning to wire wrap, maybe you can do a joint order from Rio and split the cost?

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By: Cyreathia Reyer https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1763 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 14:32:23 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1763 A great place to get coated copper wire is parawire. You can get square wire for just a little over $6 for 25 ft. It is great for learning and they even offer the vintaj color in square wire and half round. You do have to have a minimum of $25 order.

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By: Jane Blancher https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1740 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:41:12 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1740 I haven’t mastered wire wrapping yet, so if I have something with one relatively flat side, I seek out and cut a slice of dry tree branch. With the bark on or off, sanded and well clear-coated it makes a beautiful base on which to securely glue your cabachon. Wood is very forgiving when you go to drill your suspension hole. The two natural substances compliment each other remarkably well, and I get a lot of compliments!

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By: Laura Castano https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1734 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:56:54 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1734 I hammer round wire gently to slightly flatten one side – I’ve also secured long round wire on my desktop with heavy u pins, put a really fine sanding drum on my handheld dremel and run it the length of the wire a few times.

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By: Barbara https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1728 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:32:58 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1728 Hi, Steve,

Like you, when I was starting out I had very little money to spend on umpteen varieties, shapes and gauges of wire and had no idea what I should buy but, after making my life miserable and WASTING round wire by the yard trying to make it do something it does not want to do, I bought an ounce of silver half round wire. Where I buy it, it comes in 5 foot lengths or an ounce. But consider this — by the foot, you pay half the price, and by the ounce, you effectively get twice the wire in length because it’s only HALF round. Then I found some half round copper — which for some reason is more difficult to find at least where I live. Unfortunately, it’s the coated kind, so it looks kind of weird as the rest of the copper starts to tarnish, so I’m looking for uncoated.

Spend the five or ten bucks and make your life easier. I got some good advice from a blow-your-socks-off jeweller years ago when I was starting out that 24 gauge is the wire you will use most often, so buy lots of that. I can say with completely authority that half round is also your friend. Personally, I’m not so fond of the look of square wire, so I don’t even have any. But I can now wrap all kinds of wire together and I’m not tearing my hair out in frustration every time I try to do something. Instead, I spend my time tearing out my hair because the whole thing I’m making doesn’t look like the design I have in my head. Renaaaaaaaaaaaaa… help!

Barbara

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By: Steve https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1436 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:09:23 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1436 Thanks Rena 🙂 I took a look at the YouTube video – not a bad concept at all 😉 As we’ve got a fortnight’s vacation looming close now, I might see if I can find some reasonably priced short lengths of wire while we’re out and about 🙂

Failing that, I’ll just have to do my best based on the various concepts that impress me most.
Funnily enough, you’re the second person today to mention mixing metals 🙂 I’ve tended to shy away from that, but perhaps I need to rethink 😉

In fact, I can actually envision certain effective combinations…
Thanks for the explanation of what the shapes are best suited for:) Uually, when I’ve seen them listed in a project, I’ve just moved on to something else lol.

Loved your video! 🙂 And I loved the follow up below it! You are certainly am extremely talented, and generous, lady 🙂

If I manage to get this little cab wrapped, I’ll definitely get pics and show you 😀

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By: Rena Klingenberg https://jewelrymakingjournal.com/can-i-cheat-on-wire-shapes/#comment-1432 Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:29:28 +0000 http://jewelrymakingjournal.com/?p=11860#comment-1432 Hi Steve! I know it takes a while to build up a varied collection of wire gauges and shapes.

But don’t despair – you can use round wire to make cabochon settings. For example, here’s a YouTube video tutorial for a popular round-wire setting: youtu.be/zELoEEMrBw8 . (I don’t know the artist who made this video, but this setting is one I’ve often seen.)

And yes, you can “cheat” with wire shapes and use something other than what a tutorial recommends. But it’s usually harder to get the result you want. You’ll have to be open to having a slightly different look or outcome than the original project shows.

One reason square wires are popular for cabochon settings is because their flat sides make them lie together very neatly and easily when you make a bundle of them.

And half-round wire is popular because its flat side makes it a wonderfully easy, smooth wrapping wire for binding things together.

You might want to see if you can get some less expensive wire in square and half-round (such as copper, brass, or silver-plated). You can also mix metals (copper half-round wraps with silver round wire, for example) for an artistic effect.

Also, if you’re fairly new to wire jewelry making, you might want to see my 2-minute video on how to be a “wire whisperer” – it’s really just the state of mind that helps you flow with your wire.

I hope this helps, Steve! Best of luck with your project, and we’d love to see how it turns out!

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